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PostSubject: Bill S.978: Let's Plays Soon To Be A Crime?   Bill S.978: Let's Plays Soon To Be A Crime? EmptySat Jul 02, 2011 4:01 pm

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s112-978
That's right, no more videos about games on the internet.
Meaning no Let's Plays, and no more walkthroughs.
This video explains most of it.
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I somehow highly doubt this bill will fly, as this is simply a side consequence. But I can guarantee you that almost every internet music will be debating this HOTLY. They don't know what happens on the internet, and because of the internet the people who Aren't ignorant of what happens will most likely be petitioning, or protesting this bill.

Even if it DOES get passed, which it might will, It won't last too long. I guarantee you I will be protesting this the second it get passed.

I've read it, and it's poorly worded. It's quite obvious they have no idea what they're actually doing. They're protecting the music and film industries quite effectively, but they seem to have no idea that this will be effecting more than the film and music. Either they need to edit it, or strike it down immediately.

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NOT OK. NOT OK AT ALL.
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camelfox wrote:
NOT OK. NOT OK AT ALL.

Did you even read the actual bill? :/

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If this Bill does pass, let's hope it doesn't affect me. I'm in Canada. :D
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Yea, heard about this. I was actually planning to start a lets play series of my own... humph

I agree with Hutch, it probably won't pass. Hundreds of bills are submitted, very few pass.


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Hutch wrote:
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NOT OK. NOT OK AT ALL.

Did you even read the actual bill? :/

yes
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Dark_Plague wrote:
If this Bill does pass, let's hope it doesn't affect me. I'm in Canada. :D

It will, most likely. As a lot of the people who upload video game content are American, they'll be unable to upload any more videos involving those games, if the people you watch don't live in America, you're fine. If they do, it will most likely affect you.

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Hutch wrote:
Dark_Plague wrote:
If this Bill does pass, let's hope it doesn't affect me. I'm in Canada. :D

It will, most likely. As a lot of the people who upload video game content are American, they'll be unable to upload any more videos involving those games, if the people you watch don't live in America, you're fine. If they do, it will most likely affect you.

Correct, it will most likely effect every nation with teens who watch "lets plays". As other countries still look up to america, it is only a mater of time after if the bill passes, that similar bills will pass through their legislation.
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Actually, it's highly unlikely for that to happen, I doubt this Bill will even be passed, or at least it'll be edited so it doesn't affect the video game industry. But I'm almost certain people won't make the same bill in different countries. Trust me, and they hardly "Look up to America" We're just free entertainment.

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I think Gandalf said it best. Happy.


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For once, that video was amusing. Thank you, Delta.

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PostSubject: Re: Bill S.978: Let's Plays Soon To Be A Crime?   Bill S.978: Let's Plays Soon To Be A Crime? EmptySat Jul 02, 2011 7:20 pm

This is the stupidest bill I've ever heard. This shall not pass! Wizard
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PostSubject: Re: Bill S.978: Let's Plays Soon To Be A Crime?   Bill S.978: Let's Plays Soon To Be A Crime? EmptySat Jul 02, 2011 7:42 pm

Stupidest.. Bill.. I've ever read.

But then what about spore videos? Will they tolerate it or what?

It's not like we're selling illegal copies of the game, it's like we're letting people know if the game is good or not or showings some problems.

I don't see why it's so bad.
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PostSubject: Re: Bill S.978: Let's Plays Soon To Be A Crime?   Bill S.978: Let's Plays Soon To Be A Crime? EmptySun Jul 03, 2011 5:04 am

Hutch wrote:
if the people you watch don't live in America, you're fine.

:>

Anyway, this is one of the dumbest things I've heard. People will just get around it at some point, and there's no telling what the internet community would think of it. Besides, I love watching Let's Plays!
(And admittedly, sometimes I have to resort to watching walkthroughs to get through some of my Monkey Island games. Damn things are too hard to work out sometimes.)
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PostSubject: Re: Bill S.978: Let's Plays Soon To Be A Crime?   Bill S.978: Let's Plays Soon To Be A Crime? EmptySun Jul 03, 2011 7:04 am

This bill has shenanigans for displays of copyrighted works, video game playing is a transformative work. The source code and game files are the copyrighted works.
But it does need to be fixed in case I'm wrong or the people doing this are just stupid. :p
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Let's face it though, if videos about video games were completley banned, the Escapist is going to violently combust. P:
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I looked at the voting, 580 somethin people hate this idea.
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The people who made this up where not good boys and girls, not at all!
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notch says he will be adding a thing to MC that makes lps legal if it DOES pass.
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Oh, so destroying a large part of the internet is acceptable as long as minecraft is safe?

Very classy cam, very classy.

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camelfox wrote:
notch says he will be adding a thing to MC that makes lps legal if it DOES pass.

Hutch wrote:
Oh, so destroying a large part of the internet is acceptable as long as minecraft is safe?

Very classy cam, very classy.

Huch: Exactly.

Camel: MINECRAFT IS A PIXEL FILLED DIGITAL CODE COLLECTION MEANT TO SUCK YOUR BRAINS OUT AND REPLACE THEM WITH ZOMBIES. Sorry for the caps there, I just needed to emphasize my point. You all have become SO ADDICTED TO MC, That you might as well just do this: "Oh no! The only way to save MC is if I die and all the earth's oil rigs explode" And so that's what you do to save MC.

Sorry for the off topic there, but I just really needed to say that. Mine Craft isn't everything.

As for the Bill, its still a STUPID idea. Those congressmen and their stupid bill ideas...
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Lazernugget wrote:
camelfox wrote:
notch says he will be adding a thing to MC that makes lps legal if it DOES pass.

Hutch wrote:
Oh, so destroying a large part of the internet is acceptable as long as minecraft is safe?

Very classy cam, very classy.

Huch: Exactly.

Camel: MINECRAFT IS A PIXEL FILLED DIGITAL CODE COLLECTION MEANT TO SUCK YOUR BRAINS OUT AND REPLACE THEM WITH ZOMBIES. Sorry for the caps there, I just needed to emphasize my point. You all have become SO ADDICTED TO MC, That you might as well just do this: "Oh no! The only way to save MC is if I die and all the earth's oil rigs explode" And so that's what you do to save MC.

Sorry for the off topic there, but I just really needed to say that. Mine Craft isn't everything.

As for the Bill, its still a STUPID idea. Those congressmen and their stupid bill ideas...

No Lazer, you managed to completely butcher my Opinion. You obviously have no knowledge of the game, so instead you throw up a biased, unintelligent opinion that does nothing for anyone. I was simply poking fun at Cam, and your opinion and argument is entirely invalid unless you bother to play the game.

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Lazernugget wrote:
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notch says he will be adding a thing to MC that makes lps legal if it DOES pass.

Hutch wrote:
Oh, so destroying a large part of the internet is acceptable as long as minecraft is safe?

Very classy cam, very classy.

Huch: Exactly.

Camel: MINECRAFT IS A PIXEL FILLED DIGITAL CODE COLLECTION MEANT TO SUCK YOUR BRAINS OUT AND REPLACE THEM WITH ZOMBIES. Sorry for the caps there, I just needed to emphasize my point. You all have become SO ADDICTED TO MC, That you might as well just do this: "Oh no! The only way to save MC is if I die and all the earth's oil rigs explode" And so that's what you do to save MC.

Sorry for the off topic there, but I just really needed to say that. Mine Craft isn't everything.

As for the Bill, its still a STUPID idea. Those congressmen and their stupid bill ideas...

Stop pretending you know what your talking about. The bill itself is not a stupid idea. They mean well when they want to abolish TV and Movie pirateing. With people wanting to watch on the internet, they lose money becuase people do not go to the movies or buy the dvd and whatnot.


Its the contents of the gaming section that was not seen and looked over. Minus the gaming streaming part of the bill, it all actually sounds like a really good way for those businesses to save lots of money and actually get people to buy their work.

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Sorry if I over-reacted, I was just stating my opinion, not yours Hutch.

Drew: I DO know what I'm talking about. I know about bills and the copyright issues and stuff, I'm NOT stupid or something. I really do think the bill is a bad idea that will make people sad and not help. So if that sounds stupid to YOU, than too bad.

I'm sorry Hutch and Drew. I was just stating MY opinion. Bye.
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