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PostSubject: *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes    *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes  EmptyWed Aug 31, 2011 12:56 am

The admin team is beginning to make some major changes as of now, mostly under the main index page, and we would appreciate any feedback you may have before we get down to the nitty-gritty.

Primarily, we plan to do away with the large number of unnecessary sections the forum seems to be swamped by, making new, broader ones and combining them. There will be very significant differences when we are done: the aim is to make the forum as a whole more user-friendly and, perhaps, less-daunting to new members.

The end result may be along the lines of this:
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Once the reorganisation is complete we may also enlarge the section headings to improve their appearance. You will also notice that this sample includes a Minecraft section: This has been added in view of the relatively large number of threads related to the game, as a way to streamline the off-topic section and give MCers a place to post their ideas without getting too far up the noses of those of us that would prefer to concentrate on Spore.

Also I would like you to voice your opinions on something we will be doing after this -- we are planning to change the ranks. Once again, this is intended to trim the fat out of our organisation system: it is our view that there are too many unnecessary ranks sitting around; so please, if you want us to keep a certain rank up, post and we will consider it. We as a community can work on this one together.


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Now to clear up some confusion, when I re did the ranks people were moved into their appropriate ranks. There were a lot of ranks before as we all know now theres only 4. It may appear your ranked lower this time, but don't worry about that too much because you know theres only 4 you can reach and you get through them rather fast should you post often.

Let me explain how I converted everyone.

Members and Legendary members became Members

Elite Adventures and awesome adventures became Honorable Members

Specialist and Advisers became Adventurer

Demoted admins such as Shadow and former chat moderators were placed in Noble. Noble still have chat moderator powers.




-Drew and the Admin/Mod team of winning.


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PostSubject: Re: *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes    *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes  EmptyWed Aug 31, 2011 2:15 am

Cool! I enjoy change. I don't like having the main index so small, we should figure out how to add a bit more so it's not so awkwardly small. Otherwise, sure, add MC, it'll increase to MC posts but I'll live with it :P

Also, you're doing rank changes? Cool. Congrats on your admin-ship Drew. :D I 100% knew you'd get there. Edit: Aww, it's only temporary?

EDIT: Rank suggestions: (And no, Hutch, I'm not asking for a promotion when I say this):

New group leaders
Princessnintendo has over 400 post and should be ranked up
Doing position changes for people like Shard^
Doing position changes for people who are seriously inactive
Either replacing of editing or destroying the awesome adventurer section, no one active uses it.

These two are strictly optional:

More mods (Not really, but possibly)
More Admins (Very optional, it doesn't matter all that much)
Doing a poll for another Co-leader/admin person (COMPLETELY optional, but I recognize there are only 2 active so...

These are all suggestions and I hope you consider them without yelling at me if one or more of these is a bad idea :P


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PostSubject: Re: *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes    *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes  EmptyWed Aug 31, 2011 2:36 am

@Lazer
Drew's Adminship is meant to be temporary, so then he can make changes to GAC.
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Check my edit for more suggestions. ^
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PostSubject: Re: *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes    *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes  EmptyWed Aug 31, 2011 3:15 am

Dark_Plague wrote:
@Lazer
Drew's Adminship is meant to be temporary, so then he can make changes to GAC.

WE WILL SEE ABOUT THAT

Lazernugget wrote:
Princessnintendo has over 400 post and should be ranked up

We are not ranking people up just because they have a certain amount of posts. Thats not whats happening after this. Though for now you may as well ask someone else because I am not promoting anyone at this time.

Lazernugget wrote:
Doing position changes for people like Shard.

Maybe maybe not, I am not sure why she was not made admin because she was a founder right?

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Doing position changes for people who are seriously inactive

Maybe for inactive administration, I agree. However the inactives in their regular groups can stay.

Lazernugget wrote:
More mods

I agree, Glass would be the best choice I think because he has lots of experience with it not just here but in a few other places too.

Lazernugget wrote:
More Admins

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Lazernugget wrote:
Doing a poll for another Co-leader/admin person (COMPLETELY optional, but I recognize there are only 2 active so...


I think this should remain unchanged. Two leaders is good enough.
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PostSubject: Re: *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes    *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes  EmptyWed Aug 31, 2011 3:34 am

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Lazernugget wrote:
Princessnintendo has over 400 post and should be ranked up

We are not ranking people up just because they have a certain amount of posts. Thats not whats happening after this. Though for now you may as well ask someone else because I am not promoting anyone at this time.


Legendary member= over 50 posts. :P
What do you mean ask someone else? I said I wasn't asking for a promotion.


What about the new Group leaders or the editing of the AA group?
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PostSubject: Re: *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes    *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes  EmptyWed Aug 31, 2011 3:36 am

I think he was saying that he's not in-charge of promoting people. :P
oh and, I think they're re-writing most of the descriptions for the ranks, since they all need to be changed at some point. :P
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PostSubject: Re: *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes    *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes  EmptyWed Aug 31, 2011 3:39 am

That still leaves changing the group leader, some are very inactive. It's not a big issue but It could help. :P
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PostSubject: Re: *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes    *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes  EmptyWed Aug 31, 2011 3:39 am

Some? Like who?
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List: Galox, Byball, Dark Heroics, IcySquirell.

Gelo is group leader of 2, Hutch is leader of 3. (No problem, but just sayin')

Shardna is now Princess not Shardna.

Having active group moderators is good for their to be outlets into asking things about that group. I also suggest keeping SOME groups open so people can hit request like on The lab (And again, I'm NOT asking that as a way just to pester you for a promotion. :P)
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PostSubject: Re: *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes    *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes  EmptyWed Aug 31, 2011 3:51 am

Goober - that would be the only one. Shard has not request a re-promotion. If she requests, we will consider, but she should keep in mind it isn't automatic.
I'm pretty sure Drew is staying admin for a while, as I'm impressed with his activity and work ethic. I've read all the posts, and Lazer, you have some good ideas there. I'll be looking over the possibilities and seeing what we can do.

But a quick question to you all, and please, if you see this, respond.
"Are you OK with the changes mentioned in the OP?"

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Kinda, read the second post to see my complaints, and thanks for liking my ideas.
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I saw the suggestions already, as mentioned, and the complaints, but keep in mind the bulk idea is to simply cut down on the amount of useless sections and make this place a bit more neat. Again, check out the OP to see what I mean. Just simply move/get rid of some sections, and maybe add some. That's what I'm checking.

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Lazernugget wrote:
That still leaves changing the group leader, some are very inactive. It's not a big issue but It could help. :P


The group leaders all need to be Hutch.
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-__- Okay...? How come Bence is an AT like me now? Just asking. Also, what about editing ar deleting the Awesome adventurer section, no one exactly uses it...all those are inactive.
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Lazernugget wrote:
what about editing ar deleting the Awesome adventurer section, no one exactly uses it...all those are inactive.

Thats the kind of thing we want to do, not for that reason but yes we are doing this.
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PostSubject: Re: *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes    *IMPORTANT* Forum Undergoing Changes  EmptyWed Aug 31, 2011 4:16 am

Lazer, please stop botherin' them.
Look back at the picture posted.
there is no Awesome Adventurer section. >.>
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So AA is going? Cool. I've heard rumors Chatmod will go too. True?
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So AA is going? Cool. I've heard rumors Chatmod will go too. True?

Maybe. This one is up for debate though. We are only at the point where we can only voice opinions. You see the argument here is that it can be useful. But we never really will need it. Most of our main members are Chat moderators, its not really a problem but it just does not really seem right. It may just be renamed or something. I sorta wanted to make a rank for people who contribute to the forum a lot. People like Glass, Dark_Plague, or most of the current chat moderators could fit in it.
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Cool. I contribute. I have 1536 posts...But I guess I don't have the power to contribute more than suggestions or posting..
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Cool. I contribute. I have 1536 posts...But I guess I don't have the power to contribute more than suggestions or posting..

More then having many posts it would take. The trust and respect of the admins would be a factor and general popularity could also play a factor. It would be something that would be controlled in the eyes of the admins. In my club I have on the Spourm we have ranks and so far this method has worked very well.
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Well then that group will be impossible for me to reach :P
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You could always try to improve. Wink
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Thanks for believing I can. there there
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Lazernugget wrote:
Cool. I contribute. I have 1536 posts...But I guess I don't have the power to contribute more than suggestions or posting..

You see, posts like this completely dry up any chance of getting a promotion or any of that junk. Wait patiently, and generally don't ask about anything or beg for a promotion. That's how you earn a bad reputation with the admin/mod team and end up stuck in one rank.

Either way, just a lot of posts doesn't make you a contributor. A chatmod, someone who makes sigs, people who make graphics for the forum are people who contribute. A lot of posts just tells me you're a regular, not much else.

Be careful.

And yes. I'm with 3D. We are considering giving drew a full-time admin job.
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